While my argument is still fresh I will start to make my
arguments of why the Judah-Christian and thus Islamic faiths are wrong. Not
just wrong as in not correct but wrong for the mentality of any time, but
mostly today. It is an immoral set of ideas that people cling, which justifies
their evil beliefs.
There I said it; the three religions are the opposite of what they claim. Given that I have now just set myself against approximately three billion people and the majority of the worlds that I pass through and the people that employ me, I had better make my arguments well.
I could for example use the arguments of David Hume, a man who very effectively castrated god or proved that he is immoral, depending on which of the two paradigms you believe defines god, in his Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. Is god all powerful or is god good. You can only select one. I took one philosophy course in University and guess what we talked about? University a place of learning that was developed by the Christian church to study the Bible, which the most hard line theologists now object to as their policies are about keeping the masses stupid to keep them faithful.
I have been itching to use my arguments against proselytizers as they come knocking on the door as I did when I was in high-school. They look at me and they steer away. They last time they approached me I was at work and so I had to be polite. But my arguments start out by stating boldly, I am more moral than your religion. They of course do not believe me, but it draws them in because I have just attacked their most basic beliefs. After all their morality is the basis of their belief and that their belief is the best and they are therefore the most moral and by saying that I am more moral than they; I challenge them right from the first.
The first thing you have to establish is what their beliefs are that you are challenging. It is always best if you can get them to tell you, but it may be necessary to ask a leading question. I usually ask about the Ten Commandments. You see they will always say that the Ten Commandments are part of what they believe because Moses came down from the mountain with two tablets that stated the Ten Commandments and half of the commandments are secular and the other half are theological. Getting the theist to commit to this is easy, because they believe that it is the cornerstone of their morality. It is not entrapment to get them to state this, they believe that they believe everything in the bible is divine law; they don't. The Ten Commandments is just the start, the prologue, to Leviticus, the laws of the Jews and thus e divine laws of Christianity and Islam. So after you ask them about the Ten Commandments you then have to double check that they believe that the bible is the word of god and must be obeyed.
Once they agree, you have them, because Leviticus is filled by the scariest most immoral laws known to man. You can start off and let them feel morally strong and on sure footing by saying that you believe there is nothing wrong with being gay, "If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." is in there, it should be noted that that wording would make lesbians legal. They most likely feel that they have you there and will feel confident with this argument. It is always better to start softly before you start hitting them over the head, to underline their depths of their poor placement of belief.
Leviticus 27:1-9 makes it very clear that, men and women are not equal and that women have less worth than men. I do not agree with this in the slightest, therefore I am more moral than they. This is a weak argument for them if they are men; the religion is a patriarch after all. In Exodus 21:24 of the bible is where it says that punishment to crime must be equal to the damages, a tooth for a tooth a life for a life. It actually says eye for an eye but that is what it means. I do not believe in Capital punishment and neither should they, because is not the Sixth Commandment not a prohibition against killing and that if someone breaks your arm, their arm should be broken too? A little barbaric, barbarians are immoral.
Still not convinced? The punishment for rape is marriage. According to the Bible, there is an easy way for me to end my bachelorhood, but I think that is amoral, but it if they agree with Deuteronomy, they must believe it right? Deuteronomy also tells you what foods you are allowed to eat, do you like bacon, well if you believe the bible is divine law, you are breaking it. It also says Slavery is okay and legal. The Bible goes into great detail about slavery, about how killing a slave is not the same as killing a person, that it is actually only damaging a person's property. It also states that you most free all your slaves on the High Holy Day, which occurs every fifty years, unless you acquired your slave between the high holy days, and then it may be extended. It talks about other aspects of slavery, like the children of slaves. It does not say anywhere that slavery is bad. Therefore I am more moral.
There are a lot of reasons why I am more moral than people who believe the bible and it should be followed all the time on everything. The best stories in the bible that prove that god is amoral are the stories that show that god does not follow his own rules. The bible, also in Leviticus, tells what is okay to sacrifice and what is not okay, it tells you right in there. It tells you in Genesis. It says that it is not okay to sacrifice humans, sacrificing children is wrong it says, except when he wants you to. Everyone is chomping at the bit ready to tell me that I am wrong, god only wanted to see if Abraham loved god above all else and he stayed the knife and summoned a goat to be used in his place, but I am not referring to that story. I am referring to the one where god asks for a man’s daughter as a sacrifice and it is done.
The story goes that there is a horrible war on the horizon and all the Jews turn to the best soldier, whom they all despise because he is the son of a prostitute, and demand that he lead the people in the war. The war is going very badly and he swears that if they win, he will sacrifice the first thing that greets him at his home, if only he wins the battle. And god is on his side and he wins against impossible odds. He goes home and the first thing that greets him is his daughter. He breaks down and cries and tells his daughter his promise and she tells him that if you promised then you must do it and god does not lift a finger. The story is about hubris, demanding anything for something is dangerous because you might regret the price., but if you believe the Bible is the word of god, then it is proof that god is amoral. He could have pushed a cow forward and tripped the daughter up, but god wanted a human sacrifice, yum yum.
The New Testament I know less well but therein can be found many other instances that do not contradict the immorality of the Bible.
There I said it; the three religions are the opposite of what they claim. Given that I have now just set myself against approximately three billion people and the majority of the worlds that I pass through and the people that employ me, I had better make my arguments well.
I could for example use the arguments of David Hume, a man who very effectively castrated god or proved that he is immoral, depending on which of the two paradigms you believe defines god, in his Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion. Is god all powerful or is god good. You can only select one. I took one philosophy course in University and guess what we talked about? University a place of learning that was developed by the Christian church to study the Bible, which the most hard line theologists now object to as their policies are about keeping the masses stupid to keep them faithful.
I have been itching to use my arguments against proselytizers as they come knocking on the door as I did when I was in high-school. They look at me and they steer away. They last time they approached me I was at work and so I had to be polite. But my arguments start out by stating boldly, I am more moral than your religion. They of course do not believe me, but it draws them in because I have just attacked their most basic beliefs. After all their morality is the basis of their belief and that their belief is the best and they are therefore the most moral and by saying that I am more moral than they; I challenge them right from the first.
The first thing you have to establish is what their beliefs are that you are challenging. It is always best if you can get them to tell you, but it may be necessary to ask a leading question. I usually ask about the Ten Commandments. You see they will always say that the Ten Commandments are part of what they believe because Moses came down from the mountain with two tablets that stated the Ten Commandments and half of the commandments are secular and the other half are theological. Getting the theist to commit to this is easy, because they believe that it is the cornerstone of their morality. It is not entrapment to get them to state this, they believe that they believe everything in the bible is divine law; they don't. The Ten Commandments is just the start, the prologue, to Leviticus, the laws of the Jews and thus e divine laws of Christianity and Islam. So after you ask them about the Ten Commandments you then have to double check that they believe that the bible is the word of god and must be obeyed.
Once they agree, you have them, because Leviticus is filled by the scariest most immoral laws known to man. You can start off and let them feel morally strong and on sure footing by saying that you believe there is nothing wrong with being gay, "If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." is in there, it should be noted that that wording would make lesbians legal. They most likely feel that they have you there and will feel confident with this argument. It is always better to start softly before you start hitting them over the head, to underline their depths of their poor placement of belief.
Leviticus 27:1-9 makes it very clear that, men and women are not equal and that women have less worth than men. I do not agree with this in the slightest, therefore I am more moral than they. This is a weak argument for them if they are men; the religion is a patriarch after all. In Exodus 21:24 of the bible is where it says that punishment to crime must be equal to the damages, a tooth for a tooth a life for a life. It actually says eye for an eye but that is what it means. I do not believe in Capital punishment and neither should they, because is not the Sixth Commandment not a prohibition against killing and that if someone breaks your arm, their arm should be broken too? A little barbaric, barbarians are immoral.
Still not convinced? The punishment for rape is marriage. According to the Bible, there is an easy way for me to end my bachelorhood, but I think that is amoral, but it if they agree with Deuteronomy, they must believe it right? Deuteronomy also tells you what foods you are allowed to eat, do you like bacon, well if you believe the bible is divine law, you are breaking it. It also says Slavery is okay and legal. The Bible goes into great detail about slavery, about how killing a slave is not the same as killing a person, that it is actually only damaging a person's property. It also states that you most free all your slaves on the High Holy Day, which occurs every fifty years, unless you acquired your slave between the high holy days, and then it may be extended. It talks about other aspects of slavery, like the children of slaves. It does not say anywhere that slavery is bad. Therefore I am more moral.
There are a lot of reasons why I am more moral than people who believe the bible and it should be followed all the time on everything. The best stories in the bible that prove that god is amoral are the stories that show that god does not follow his own rules. The bible, also in Leviticus, tells what is okay to sacrifice and what is not okay, it tells you right in there. It tells you in Genesis. It says that it is not okay to sacrifice humans, sacrificing children is wrong it says, except when he wants you to. Everyone is chomping at the bit ready to tell me that I am wrong, god only wanted to see if Abraham loved god above all else and he stayed the knife and summoned a goat to be used in his place, but I am not referring to that story. I am referring to the one where god asks for a man’s daughter as a sacrifice and it is done.
The story goes that there is a horrible war on the horizon and all the Jews turn to the best soldier, whom they all despise because he is the son of a prostitute, and demand that he lead the people in the war. The war is going very badly and he swears that if they win, he will sacrifice the first thing that greets him at his home, if only he wins the battle. And god is on his side and he wins against impossible odds. He goes home and the first thing that greets him is his daughter. He breaks down and cries and tells his daughter his promise and she tells him that if you promised then you must do it and god does not lift a finger. The story is about hubris, demanding anything for something is dangerous because you might regret the price., but if you believe the Bible is the word of god, then it is proof that god is amoral. He could have pushed a cow forward and tripped the daughter up, but god wanted a human sacrifice, yum yum.
The New Testament I know less well but therein can be found many other instances that do not contradict the immorality of the Bible.
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